The French are Evil!

[ReTroMagBoy]

good stuff

[Rooster]

"What did the French prevent? UN approval of a war. Isn't that what they are supposed to do if they don't agree with the action? The US has denied the UN to reprimand Israel for years for illegal actions against the Palestinians.

I think you are failing to open your eyes."

LOL! If only the self-righteous could see their own stupidity. First, Israels action wern't illegal. Just becuase your little palestienian friends told you they were, doesn't make it so. Second France willfully attempted to block US action against an enemy who was in clear violation of its own cease fire agreement. The US did not try to block the French from fighting the Germans. You see when you try to reinvent reality to suit your own small-minded view of what is going on here in the real world, you lose perspective, and look like a fool.

[Collegeboy]

Originally posted by Rooster
"What did the French prevent? UN approval of a war. Isn't that what they are supposed to do if they don't agree with the action? The US has denied the UN to reprimand Israel for years for illegal actions against the Palestinians.

I think you are failing to open your eyes."

LOL! If only the self-righteous could see their own stupidity. First, Israels action wern't illegal. Just becuase your little palestienian friends told you they were, doesn't make it so. Second France willfully attempted to block US action against an enemy who was in clear violation of its own cease fire agreement. The US did not try to block the French from fighting the Germans. You see when you try to reinvent reality to suit your own small-minded view of what is going on here in the real world, you lose perspective, and look like a fool.

Nope I think you are talking about yourself.

The French attempted to stop what they felt was the wrong way to "solve" this problem. There is nothing wrong there. That is what the UN is for.

I can't believe you just said Israel hasn't done anything illegal. Where are their boundaries, where are they now. Why are Palestinians forced to live in concentration camps, why are innocent Palestinians killed. Come on man, turn of American propaganda television and get an idea of what is going on.

Retromag, don't let me hear you complaining about someone burning the American flag.

[Rooster]

"Nope I think you are talking about yourself. "

Wow, did you learn that in Intelligent Comebacks 101, collegeboy? You must have failed that class baddly. I'm just going to laugh now.


"Nope I think you are talking about yourself. "

LOL!

[Collegeboy]

Originally posted by Rooster
"Nope I think you are talking about yourself. "

Wow, did you learn that in Intelligent Comebacks 101, collegeboy? You must have failed that class baddly. I'm just going to laugh now.


"Nope I think you are talking about yourself. "

LOL!

No reason to waste precious neurons on someone as blinded as you.

I love all these people having a problem with me being in college. It is down right funny.

[1stdeadeye]

CB,
You sir are a buffoon. I went to the University of Maryland, not Ohio State!

Don't start the whole concentration camp issue again. As for WWII, don't forget, the US started fighting in North Africa right away. Think about the battle plan. To invade Europe right away while leaving hundreds of thousands of German troops in North Africa as reenforcements makes no sense. While the Russians were holding the eastern front, the allies cleaned up North Africa and the invaded Italy. The allies didn't invade France until it was feasable. Only a Moron (or CB) would throw themselves against a brick wall over and over again hoping for a different result. A smarter person weakens the wall then hits it.

As for Vietnam, the United States was drug into Vietnam saving the French. The US was underwiting (paying for) almost 80% of the French costs at that time. The U.S. brought military advisors into Vietnam in 1950. During DIEN BIEN PHU (If you sight History CB, spell it right ), Eisenhower attempted to rescue the French with American Airstrikes. Guess what, the UN stopped him. Would it have made a difference? Yes. Khe Sanh was to be the American Dien Bien Phu, but guess what, even though surrounded and outnumbered, America won that battle! How? The Air Force dropped almost 100,000 tons of ordinance(this is 1/6th of total US bombing in the entire Vietnam War) on the NK positions holding them back. When the American reenforcements arrived, the NK fled. We backed the French in WWII and Vietnam, so I really am no longer in the mood for your garbage.

Not helping and feeding information to the enemy is 2 different things. Did we jump up to help France the moment they were invaded? No, but we didn't give the German's intelligence to help them fight the French either! If you can not see the difference between these positions, I feel sorry for you as you are truly blind!

[aaron_mag]

Oh for the love of........lets not rehash all the same issues. You guys aren't going to get back to the definition of concentration camps are you?

The only thing that pisses me off is short sighted people who "love this country". I was listening to experts on the radio today and one of them said that we WILL find weapons of mass destruction and she is sure because she spent alot of time going over the intelligence reports (in her work). Both said, however, that this administration has to get off their collective butts and start repairing relations with our allies. Do you know why they were advocating this?

You 1de as a banker should understand the importance of foriegn investment to our economy. People buy dollars to conduct trade and that benefits our economy. The major international currency used to be pounds sterling but the dollar replaced it and look what happened to the british economy. I'm not saying the Euro is going to replace the dollar but investors that decide to take their money elsewhere will further hurt the economy. Are things going relatively well for the U.S.? Personally I think they are but thumbing our noses at the world is not going to help. Oh I suppose our economy can never take a really hard fall like Germany and Japan? Do you remember when everyone was marveling at the Japanese business model and trying to emulate it? Guess what...things do change. Yes we are still strong economically despite some current issues but does that mean we should count our blessings and try to get everyone back to the state when they were perfectly happy conducting all their business in dollars and didn't let foolish things like their own national pride get in the way.

[shartley]

Originally posted by Collegeboy


What did the French prevent? UN approval of a war. Isn't that what they are supposed to do if they don't agree with the action? The US has denied the UN to reprimand Israel for years for illegal actions against the Palestinians.

I think you are failing to open your eyes.

[Collegeboy]

Originally posted by 1stdeadeye
CB,
You sir are a buffoon. I went to the University of Maryland, not Ohio State!

Don't start the whole concentration camp issue again. As for WWII, don't forget, the US started fighting in North Africa right away. Think about the battle plan. To invade Europe right away while leaving hundreds of thousands of German troops in North Africa as reenforcements makes no sense. While the Russians were holding the eastern front, the allies cleaned up North Africa and the invaded Italy. The allies didn't invade France until it was feasable. Only a Moron (or CB) would throw themselves against a brick wall over and over again hoping for a different result. A smarter person weakens the wall then hits it.

As for Vietnam, the United States was drug into Vietnam saving the French. The US was underwiting (paying for) almost 80% of the French costs at that time. The U.S. brought military advisors into Vietnam in 1950. During DIEN BIEN PHU (If you sight History CB, spell it right ), Eisenhower attempted to rescue the French with American Airstrikes. Guess what, the UN stopped him. Would it have made a difference? Yes. Khe Sanh was to be the American Dien Bien Phu, but guess what, even though surrounded and outnumbered, America won that battle! How? The Air Force dropped almost 100,000 tons of ordinance(this is 1/6th of total US bombing in the entire Vietnam War) on the NK positions holding them back. When the American reenforcements arrived, the NK fled. We backed the French in WWII and Vietnam, so I really am no longer in the mood for your garbage.

Not helping and feeding information to the enemy is 2 different things. Did we jump up to help France the moment they were invaded? No, but we didn't give the German's intelligence to help them fight the French either! If you can not see the difference between these positions, I feel sorry for you as you are truly blind!

[shartley]

Originally posted by Collegeboy

[Collegeboy]

Originally posted by shartley

You all chastise the French government for threatening to use its veto to stop the US from attacking Iraq.

But you don't chastise the US for using its veto to stop Israel and their illegal actions.

Sort of a double standard.

The parallel is easy to see if you open your eyes.

[shartley]

Originally posted by Collegeboy


You all chastise the French government for threatening to use its veto to stop the US from attacking Iraq.

But you don't chastise the US for using its veto to stop Israel and their illegal actions.

Sort of a double standard.

The parallel is easy to see if you open your eyes.

[Collegeboy]

This is about showing all of you the other side of the coin. You all have gotten so keen to listening to the US side of things you have forgotten there is another side to things. I get sick and tired of hearing France bad this, burn the French flag, France bad that, but out of the same people I hear no bad words against the US for doing the same thing. You all are so caught up in the notion that the US is right in all it does that you have forgotten to look at things evenly.

France had the right to use its veto to block US military efforts in Iraq. That is what the UN is all about.

Until you all can pull your heads out of the propaganda hole, you will never be able to understand what I am saying, and why I am saying it.

You have the right to believe in what ever you want to, that is what being an American is about. But you are ignorant if you choose not to look at both sides before making a decision.

I could care less what you believe about France, but I wish you would at least be the slightest bit informed before you make that decision.

[shartley]

Originally posted by Collegeboy
This is about showing all of you the other side of the coin. You all have gotten so keen to listening to the US side of things you have forgotten there is another side to things. I get sick and tired of hearing France bad this, burn the French flag, France bad that, but out of the same people I hear no bad words against the US for doing the same thing. You all are so caught up in the notion that the US is right in all it does that you have forgotten to look at things evenly.

France had the right to use its veto to block US military efforts in Iraq. That is what the UN is all about.

Until you all can pull your heads out of the propaganda hole, you will never be able to understand what I am saying, and why I am saying it.

You have the right to believe in what ever you want to, that is what being an American is about. But you are ignorant if you choose not to look at both sides before making a decision.

I could care less what you believe about France, but I wish you would at least be the slightest bit informed before you make that decision.

[Collegeboy]

Originally posted by shartley

You might not have that opinion, but you criticize me for criticizing the US government. So in essence you are saying that no one should criticize the government which entails you think they are always right.

France on Iraq and the US on Israel.

Both cases are examples of one country stopping another country from their version of punishment of another country. Only with the US's case they stop any punishment, at least France said punishment is in order, just a war will not be best for the Iraqi people.

I can not understand how if someone looks at both sides of the issue with an open mind they can come up with the hogwash that you are pushing. I could care less if your opinion differs from mine, but I do care if your opinion is accurately formed and unbiasly (as much as possible) formed.

Are you now saying the US is wrong in its support of Israel? If not then France is not wrong. You can not blame another country saying it is wrong while saying another country do the same thing is right. Simple as that.

As for me being a self-propaganda machine, humorous, you should be a comedian.