The French are Evil!

**Collegeboy** · 05-01-2003, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by shartley

**FactsOfLife** · 05-01-2003, 01:06 PM

Originally posted by Collegeboy
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FOL answer the question.

The answer is, you're still an idiot.

Useful perhaps, but an idiot nonetheless.

**Rooster** · 05-01-2003, 02:31 PM

"The violation of a cease fire is means to take action to bring the country into agreement with the ceasefire agreements, not to invade said country. "

You are incorrect. A ceasefire is a contract. Break the contract and the war is back on. Its not a document that makes us Sadam's legal gaurdian to make sure he stays out of trouble.

The ceasefire was broken, thus the firing begins again.

**Collegeboy** · 05-01-2003, 02:38 PM

I guess we all know now who FOL is. He is a guy who can't hold a discussion, can not answer a question towards what he says, and refuses to do so. He is afraid to answer a simple question, and all he can do is call people names. Please FOL if this is all you do why even bother posting in these discussions.

Rooster, no you are incorrect. By violating a peace treaty doesn't mean the war is back on, if that was the case we would be in a war everyday of our life. It means measures can be taken to get the country to stay in agreement with the treaty, but war it doesn't support.

**shartley** · 05-01-2003, 03:06 PM

**FactsOfLife** · 05-01-2003, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by Collegeboy
I guess we all know now who FOL is. He is a guy who can't hold a discussion, can not answer a question towards what he says, and refuses to do so. He is afraid to answer a simple question, and all he can do is call people names. Please FOL if this is all you do why even bother posting in these discussions.

You'd really like everyone to think that wouldn't you.

The simple fact is, YOU are the only one I call an idiot here.

YOU are the only one that's earned it.

**Collegeboy** · 05-01-2003, 03:40 PM

Originally posted by FactsOfLife

You'd really like everyone to think that wouldn't you.

The simple fact is, YOU are the only one I call an idiot here.

YOU are the only one that's earned it.

Yet another post without answering the question. What are you scared of.

Shartley, to go to war the said country will have to then go to the UN on which the UN will see if there are grounds for a war or not. Since this was a UN lead mission in Iraq (Gulf War) and a UN lead peace, the UN declares war. No country can take it upon themselves to invade another country in the name of a UN peace treaty.

**aaron_mag** · 05-01-2003, 03:51 PM

FOL and I rarely agree on anything and he often ends our discussions with a smart *** comment. He is not, however, an idiot nor is he afraid of debate. I take his parting comments in our discussion in the spirit they were meant (at least I believe they were meant) which is basically that we are too far apart on our opinions so there is no need to continue rehashing the same points to infinity....Besides some of his smart assed remarks are creative and funny (even when they are against me)

**m-98** · 05-01-2003, 03:52 PM

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Originally posted by Collegeboy

First of all, France was completely conquered by May of '40 and by '41 all but the resistance were enjoying the occupation.

Second, we did not enter WWII because Russia had weakened the Germans, we entered a war with Japan in Dec. of '41 and we wouldn't have entered the war with Germany had Hitler not declared war on us on Dec. 15, 1941. On a similar note Russia was weak in '41 and retreating at that time the Nazis were within 50 miles of Moscow (Russia's capital you might like to know) so it was the opposite of your statement. The Russians were weak and the Germans strong.

Third the turning points in the war were the the battles for Midway and Stalingrad (you've probably never heard of them) both of which were in '42 and '43.

If you're taking a history class at your college I'd ask for my money back.

**shartley** · 05-01-2003, 03:57 PM

Originally posted by Collegeboy

Shartley, to go to war the said country will have to then go to the UN on which the UN will see if there are grounds for a war or not. Since this was a UN lead mission in Iraq (Gulf War) and a UN lead peace, the UN declares war. No country can take it upon themselves to invade another country in the name of a UN peace treaty.

**Collegeboy** · 05-01-2003, 04:07 PM

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Originally posted by m-98

First of all, France was completely conquered by May of '40 and by '41 all but the resistance were enjoying the occupation.

Second, we did not enter WWII because Russia had weakened the Germans, we entered a war with Japan in Dec. of '41 and we wouldn't have entered the war with Germany had Hitler not declared war on us on Dec. 15, 1941. On a similar note Russia was weak in '41 and retreating at that time the Nazis were within 50 miles of Moscow (Russia's capital you might like to know) so it was the opposite of your statement. The Russians were weak and the Germans strong.

Third the turning points in the war were the the battles for Midway and Stalingrad (you've probably never heard of them) both of which were in '42 and '43.

If you're taking a history class at your college I'd ask for my money back.

Nope not all of France was conquered. Only the Northern part.

You are correct about the entering the war in Europe after Hitler declared war, but that doesn't detract from what I said. You do not judge what the US did in WWII to what they did in 1941, for the US didn't do anything in 1941, it wasn't until later on that the US landed in Africa, then in Italy, then in France.

And no Stalingrad is not the turning point that people think it is. The siege of Moscow was a greater turning point then Stalingrad. Heck I even think the end of the siege at Leningrad was better then Stalingrad, heck I think kursk was better then Stalingrad. Get it, Stalingrad is not what it is made out to be.

If I need to get my money back for I am not learning your brand of history then I would be glad to and then enroll in a better course for you have about a 5 grade knowledge of history.

Funny you say I don't know what Stalingrad (now Volgograd) or even Moscow is, kind of funny. Would you like for me to pick you up anything this summer when I will be there?

TBL HE ZHAEWB

Did the UN sanction the invasion? That is about the only question that needs to be asked.

**shartley** · 05-01-2003, 04:18 PM

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Originally posted by Collegeboy

Did the UN sanction the invasion? That is about the only question that needs to be asked.

**Collegeboy** · 05-01-2003, 04:36 PM

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Originally posted by shartley

**shartley** · 05-01-2003, 04:40 PM

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Originally posted by Collegeboy

**m-98** · 05-01-2003, 04:53 PM

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Originally posted by Collegeboy

Nope not all of France was conquered. Only the Northern part.

You are correct about the entering the war in Europe after Hitler declared war, but that doesn't detract from what I said. You do not judge what the US did in WWII to what they did in 1941, for the US didn't do anything in 1941, it wasn't until later on that the US landed in Africa, then in Italy, then in France.

And no Stalingrad is not the turning point that people think it is. The siege of Moscow was a greater turning point then Stalingrad. Heck I even think the end of the siege at Leningrad was better then Stalingrad, heck I think kursk was better then Stalingrad. Get it, Stalingrad is not what it is made out to be.

If I need to get my money back for I am not learning your brand of history then I would be glad to and then enroll in a better course for you have about a 5 grade knowledge of history.

Funny you say I don't know what Stalingrad (now Volgograd) or even Moscow is, kind of funny. Would you like for me to pick you up anything this summer when I will be there? TBL HE ZHAEWB

Did the UN sanction the invasion? That is about the only question that needs to be asked.

First, there was no seige of Moscow the Germans got close to it but there was no actual seige.

Second, Stalingrad was a turning point because it was the last major German offensive on the Eastern front.

Third, France did roll over, it took six weeks for the Germans to reach Paris. Also, France surrendered in May of '40 signifying their fall. By the way the Germans did not have to conquer southern France because the French had all ready surrendered so there was no point. If the Germans did not "conquer" France then we did not conquer Japan because we did not fight any battles on the main Japanese home islands.

Fourth, we couldn't start any major operations in '41 because we were still hurting from Pearl Harbor and you could't move troops fast enough for us to start major operations in 2 weeks and we needed to plan.

I take back some of the things about you not knowing things but you are still incorrect about things.

The French are Evil!

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