The French are Evil!

[1stdeadeye]

Easy!

Originally posted by Collegeboy


HOW CAN YOU PUNISH SOMEONE FOR BEING AGINST YOU. THAT IS UNAMERICAN, UNDEMOCRATIC, AND PLAIN WRONG.

Yeah, I guess we shouldn't hold elections then? After all, when we vote someone out, we are punishing them for not agreeing with us. I guess we should get ourselves a king or dictator, that wat the punishment will be more even handed!

AM-
I do not claim to be a guru. I also am not buying into variable rates. As a borrower, I refinanced my home to 5 1/8 fixed. As a lender, I want variable rates so I can take advantage of the upturn down the road. The economy will turn around, because it can't rain all the time.

Now as for the crystal ball comment, I am quite proud to say that I sold ALL of my Cisco stock in 1999 and put a very nice down payment on a beach house in OC, NJ. I did it not because I forsaw a drop, but because only a fool leaves all of his eggs in one basket. BTW, OC, NJ is a very hot market and the house has almost doubled in 3 years! Plus no dealing with renters, the real estate agents handle the weekly rentals which more then pay the mortgage for the year with 12 weeks of summer rentals!

[Rooster]

"Rooster, no you are incorrect. By violating a peace treaty doesn't mean the war is back on, if that was the case we would be in a war everyday of our life. It means measures can be taken to get the country to stay in agreement with the treaty, but war it doesn't support."

This proves your lack of knowledge on this subject. There was no peace treaty. There was no treaty at all. There was a ceasefire agreement. Thats it. The whole reason there was no peace treaty was to make sure Sadam complied. When a ceasefire is violated, the war can resume.

[1stdeadeye]

Originally posted by Collegeboy


Bosnia wasn't sanctioned by the UN either, so I guess we should have just let the Serbs exterminate the Kosovars. I guess that made Clinton a war criminal too by your definition.

I want to know what you think true and what is not. Too many people are posting falsities that it isn't funny. So before I can go discussing with you what the French did and did not do or were they wrong, I have to know what you think they did.

The word is fallacies (SP) not Falsities!

The French did not just roll over in WWII. My father was born in France and lived in France from 1938 to 1940, then again from 1945 to his graduation in 1956. History tells us that the French are the first to fight for what they feel is right.

You are right. The French did not just roll over. They also played dead! If the French are the first to fight and Poland was their sworn ally, why did they not invade Germany? Instead, they hid behind their defenses and waited even after declaring war on Germany.

You are also right that the US did nothing in 1941. I guess our grandfathers should have begun the invasion of Fortress Europe in the 3 weeks left in 1941 after pearl Harbor

Your dad is from France. CollegeBoy is French! It all makes sense now!

And how did Bush get his MBA. It wasn't for his grades I can tell you that.

Ah more rumors and innuendo. Harvard with their tremendous reactionary right wing reputation surely bent over backwards to help their fellow conservative!

FOL answer the question.

I'll answer: Yes your honor it's true, this man has no dick! (who you gonna call )

[Collegeboy]

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Originally posted by m-98


First, there was no seige of Moscow the Germans got close to it but there was no actual seige.

Second, Stalingrad was a turning point because it was the last major German offensive on the Eastern front.

Third, France did roll over, it took six weeks for the Germans to reach Paris. Also, France surrendered in May of '40 signifying their fall. By the way the Germans did not have to conquer southern France because the French had all ready surrendered so there was no point. If the Germans did not "conquer" France then we did not conquer Japan because we did not fight any battles on the main Japanese home islands.

Fourth, we couldn't start any major operations in '41 because we were still hurting from Pearl Harbor and you could't move troops fast enough for us to start major operations in 2 weeks and we needed to plan.

I take back some of the things about you not knowing things but you are still incorrect about things.

Moscow was laid siege not to the extent of Leningrad or Stalingrad, but ti was laid siege.

I though Kursk was the last major offensive on the Eastern Front . And no the defense of the capital was more important then Stalingrad.

We beat Japan, we did not conquer Japan. And no the French did not roll over, they lost, but they went down fighting.

That is not the point. My statement was that the US went into France only when the Germans were weekend by the Russians. This is true.

Bosnia was sanctioned by NATO, it was a multilateral agreement with the backing of the UN.

No my father is not from France, he was born there, how many times do I have to say this.

Why didn't the US step in when Poland was invaded?

[aaron_mag]

Re: Easy!

Originally posted by 1stdeadeye
AM-
I do not claim to be a guru. I also am not buying into variable rates. As a borrower, I refinanced my home to 5 1/8 fixed. As a lender, I want variable rates so I can take advantage of the upturn down the road. The economy will turn around, because it can't rain all the time.

Now as for the crystal ball comment, I am quite proud to say that I sold ALL of my Cisco stock in 1999 and put a very nice down payment on a beach house in OC, NJ. I did it not because I forsaw a drop, but because only a fool leaves all of his eggs in one basket. BTW, OC, NJ is a very hot market and the house has almost doubled in 3 years! Plus no dealing with renters, the real estate agents handle the weekly rentals which more then pay the mortgage for the year with 12 weeks of summer rentals!

Sold all your Cisco stock in 1999! That was a good move. We actually sold a bunch of stock before the big drop as well but alas not as much as we should have! My family had a beach house while I was growing up and we used to HATE that place UNTIL we got there. Then we had a blast. Back when you are a kid it always seemed that the summer weekend action you would be missing back in the neighborhood was much more exciting than a weekend with the miserable family (even if you got to bring a friend). :) Looking back on it, however, some of our best childhood memories are from there and it will probably be the same for your kids.

[m-98]

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Originally posted by Collegeboy


Moscow was laid siege not to the extent of Leningrad or Stalingrad, but ti was laid siege.

I though Kursk was the last major offensive on the Eastern Front . And no the defense of the capital was more important then Stalingrad.

We beat Japan, we did not conquer Japan. And no the French did not roll over, they lost, but they went down fighting.

That is not the point. My statement was that the US went into France only when the Germans were weekend by the Russians. This is true.

Bosnia was sanctioned by NATO, it was a multilateral agreement with the backing of the UN.

No my father is not from France, he was born there, how many times do I have to say this.

Why didn't the US step in when Poland was invaded?

Kursk: I said succussful offensive, the Germans lost there.

The invation of France: I guess I didn't understand you; I though that you meant we didn't get involved in the war in general.

We invaded France because, as you said, the Germans were weakened but first we had to win the battle for the Atlantic so we could get the proper men and equipment into Britain and we were already in Italy.

The French did fight but they failed to learn the lessens of the Polish campaign. They should have massed their tanks as the Germans did. If the French were fighting why didn't they launch a major a major offensive into Germany when Poland was invaded, and they could have done this. They did launch a small offensive, I know.

[superdesk2007]

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Cool site go to it.

[Collegeboy]

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Originally posted by m-98


Kursk: I said succussful offensive, the Germans lost there.

The invation of France: I guess I didn't understand you; I though that you meant we didn't get involved in the war in general.

We invaded France because, as you said, the Germans were weakened but first we had to win the battle for the Atlantic so we could get the proper men and equipment into Britain and we were already in Italy.

The French did fight but they failed to learn the lessens of the Polish campaign. They should have massed their tanks as the Germans did. If the French were fighting why didn't they launch a major a major offensive into Germany when Poland was invaded, and they could have done this. They did launch a small offensive, I know.

Just because you don't win a battle doesn't mean it isn't an offensive battle. (yeah I know double negative :P )

I will get to the rest when i get back.

[FactsOfLife]

Originally posted by aaron_mag
FOL and I rarely agree on anything and he often ends our discussions with a smart *** comment. He is not, however, an idiot nor is he afraid of debate. I take his parting comments in our discussion in the spirit they were meant (at least I believe they were meant) which is basically that we are too far apart on our opinions so there is no need to continue rehashing the same points to infinity....Besides some of his smart assed remarks are creative and funny (even when they are against me)

See? Here's someone that I rarely agree with, yet he hasn't even come close to earning the "Useful Idiot" title so richly deserved by The Boy.

I think we both have this country's interests at heart, how we go about them is the difference.

Unlike The Boy, who I suspect is a French Foreign Exchange student.

[Collegeboy]

Originally posted by FactsOfLife


See? Here's someone that I rarely agree with, yet he hasn't even come close to earning the "Useful Idiot" title so richly deserved by The Boy.

I think we both have this country's interests at heart, how we go about them is the difference.

Unlike The Boy, who I suspect is a French Foreign Exchange student.

I guess they give out US passports, and Military ID Cards to exchange students now.

Another post, and yet FOL still doesn't answer the question that he backed, yet he doesn't answer the question.

Oh and your the pic in your sig is a shame to every service man who ever served in Vietnam. How dare him.

[BTAutoMag]

yes i agree, at least photoshop him holding a talon

[FactsOfLife]

Originally posted by Collegeboy
Another post, and yet FOL still doesn't answer the question that he backed, yet he doesn't answer the question.

Oh and your the pic in your sig is a shame to every service man who ever served in Vietnam. How dare him.

Screw pal, MY father served in VietNam and he likes the pic.

Your assumption that it's a shame is asinine. Just like yourself.

I'm done playing your "answer my question" BS. Everyone here has answered your 3rd grade questions. YOU don't like the answers.

If you don't like it, tough. Go pound salt.

[1stdeadeye]

Re: Re: Easy!

Originally posted by aaron_mag


Sold all your Cisco stock in 1999! That was a good move. We actually sold a bunch of stock before the big drop as well but alas not as much as we should have! My family had a beach house while I was growing up and we used to HATE that place UNTIL we got there. Then we had a blast. Back when you are a kid it always seemed that the summer weekend action you would be missing back in the neighborhood was much more exciting than a weekend with the miserable family (even if you got to bring a friend). :) Looking back on it, however, some of our best childhood memories are from there and it will probably be the same for your kids.

Believe it or not, I was quite against selling the Cisco stock. My wife pushed it. She wanted the beach house. We rent out the place June through August. My wife and kids use it for May and September and usually 1 or 2 weeks we keep for ourselves in July. I just wished she pushed me to sell WCOM!

CB,
Yep, you are right. I guess it is a good thing that the Russian Bombers destroyed the German war machine! Those daring Russians took the ack ack and fighters and destroyed the German Armies ability to fight! Remember who stopped the flow of supplies to the German Armies the Russians were fighting. Boy if those Russian bombers hadn't stopped the German nuclear program, we could have seen a mushroom cloud over Moscow!

P.S. Moscow was never besieged. Attacked yes, encircled and laid siege to NO! The German army came within 50 miles of Moscow, but did not ever enter it.

[1stdeadeye]

Originally posted by Collegeboy


Oh and your the pic in your sig is a shame to every service man who ever served in Vietnam. How dare him.

And you fought in which unit again?

You have the right to speak for Vietnam veterans like I have the right to speak of Militant Lesbian Soccor Moms (kind of like Rosie O'Donnell)!

At least Bush served in the national guard. He did not run away like Clinton and hide in London bad mouthing the US! Hey, Bill was the Dixie Chicks forerunner!

As for the sig, Come on Facts. You can do better then that. How about Michael Dukakis in the tank? Now there is a funny picture!

[Cope]

Oh and your the pic in your sig is a shame to every service man who ever served in Vietnam. How dare him. [/B]

First of all it is "How dare HE", not "How dare HIM".
Second of all, my father served in Vietnam too and you'll notice that I am proud to use the pic in my sig as well.
It HONORS my father's memory, it doesn't shame it.