A Defense of Marriage/Gay Rights Amendment

[brandnewcadillac]

Originally posted by Rooster
"it is completely unreasonable to deny them the legal privilege to marry"

No more than it is unreasonable for pedophiles, polygamists, those interested in beastiality, and necropheliacs to be allowed to marry.

"Rooster, define deviant behavior."

Behavior that is unnatural, usually undertaken because of a mental imbalance or a desire for attention.

with pedophiles there are age of consent laws.

polygamists are completely different than gays.
1.) no one is born a polygamist; some are born homosexual
2.) with no gay marriage, gender discrimination exists as the government keeps certain individuals from marrying others on the basis of sex. yes, a male still can marry a female and vice versa, but the issue remains that the government should not come in between two loving people on the basis of gender. this case can not be made for polygamists.

lol. well, one major difference between gays and necrophiliacs is that gays want to marry the living. comparing the two is just plain stupid and bigoted.

[brandnewcadillac]

Originally posted by -Carnifex-


Reread what he said.

ok
i went back over it and it remains a bad argument.
it is not for you to judge why gays want marriage.
totally irrelevant argument either way you look at it.

[-Carnifex-]

Obviously you didn't read the posts before very well. His was in reply to another's.

What it boils down to is that marriage is between a man and a woman. Always has been, and hopefully, always will be.

[brandnewcadillac]

Originally posted by -Carnifex-
Obviously you didn't read the posts before very well. His was in reply to another's.

What it boils down to is that marriage is between a man and a woman. Always has been, and hopefully, always will be.

thats not an argument

[-Carnifex-]

Uhh, yes it is.

The definition of marriage, for centuries, has been between a man and a woman. The term should not be altered for the will of a minority when it opposes the will of the majority.

[CaptaiN_JacK]

what carnifex would have said 200 years ago:

"What it boils down to is that negroes are salves and inferior to us whites. Always has been, and hopefully, always will be.

what carnifex would have said 100 years ago:

"What it boils down to is that women are housewives. Always has been, and hopefully, always will be.

what carnifex would have said 50 years ago:

"What it boils down to is that divorce should be illegal. Marriage is sacred. Always has been, and hopefully, always will be."



its impossible for social norms to remain unchanged in some way. all it takes is someone blind and deaf to not undestand that.

[-Carnifex-]

Uhh, no I wouldn't have.

God damn, it's like CB reincarnate.

The definition of marriage is between a man and a woman. This is a sacred tradition which should not be tampered with unless willed by the masses, which, at the moment, is not.

Also, nowhere in the constitution does it say that everyone has the right to marry, whereas the other two cases you brought up are.

My parents are divocred, a good friend of mine will, hopefully, soon be too.

[shartley]

Originally posted by -Carnifex-


If it's beyond their control you shouldn't use it as an arguement. It hurts the cause.

Originally posted by brandnewcadillac


with pedophiles there are age of consent laws.

polygamists are completely different than gays.
1.) no one is born a polygamist; some are born homosexual
2.) with no gay marriage, gender discrimination exists as the government keeps certain individuals from marrying others on the basis of sex. yes, a male still can marry a female and vice versa, but the issue remains that the government should not come in between two loving people on the basis of gender. this case can not be made for polygamists.

lol. well, one major difference between gays and necrophiliacs is that gays want to marry the living. comparing the two is just plain stupid and bigoted.

And the points you made can be argued successfully the other way as well. And gay marriage is NOT a gender discrimination issue, it is an issue of LIFESTYLE and SEXUAL PREFERENCE issue. There is a difference. They are not being denied marriage because of their sex, but because of who they choose to have sex WITH.

[-Carnifex-]

Originally posted by shartley

I totally agree except that a homosexuals repulsion from sleeping with someone of the opposite sex could and, in my mind, is tantamount to yours or mine when it comes to sleeping with another man.

[shartley]

Originally posted by -Carnifex-


I totally agree except that a homosexuals repulsion from sleeping with someone of the opposite sex could and, in my mind, is tantamount to yours or mine when it comes to sleeping with another man.

[-Carnifex-]

Yes, but I'm talking about wiring in the brain. If you're repulsed by something it isn't viable to go against that repulsion and to ask for homosexuals not to act on urges that do not harm others is unreasonable.

[shartley]

Originally posted by -Carnifex-
Yes, but I'm talking about wiring in the brain. If you're repulsed by something it isn't viable to go against that repulsion and to ask for homosexuals not to act on urges that do not harm others is unreasonable.

[-Carnifex-]

Homosexuality doesn't spread aids. People's lack of education spreads aids.

[ShortStrokeTX]

Originally posted by Albinonewt
And further more, let's not forget that the mormons only stopped practicing polygamy because they were told to. Does anyone really believe that if the legal barrier to polygamy was taken down we wouldn't see a resurgence in it's practice?

I know for a fact that polygamy would not be started up again by the church of latter day saints because, after having been to the church quite a few times, that the practice of polygamy is not apporved by 99% of the church. And also the big boss of the church says Polygamy isn't a good thing so the rest of the church will follow that.

How do we know that if polygamy was legal that you wouldn't have 5 wives?

[shartley]

Originally posted by -Carnifex-
Homosexuality doesn't spread aids. People's lack of education spreads aids.

LOL What?

You have got to be kidding me with that response.