Can the police do that?

[acecl22]

thank you, finally, alright, i was just trying to make a point by saying it was 'the most' dangerous, obviously it is not.

im sorry to hear about that, im sure it was rough

binge drinking can produce the same consequences though, can it not? im sure the after-effects are different, and im sure the addiction potential is different, but using alcohol as a drug can easily make you black out, pass out, and die. the alcohol addiction can also destroy lives, it may not be as addictive, but there are some serious similarities to the senario you just told us and a similar patient with alcohol poisoning. if alcohol can so closely be compared to any hard drug, i feel that makes it a hard drug, and figuring out which hard drug is worse than the other is turning out to be a formidable task.

[warpig13]

I have found that alcohol is takes much longer to turn into that type of problem than hard drugs like meth and heroine.

But it all depends on the extent of abuse one has towards the drug really.

[acecl22]

so would anyone agree with me saying that 'alcohol is a hard drug'. can we agree on that?

[Lohman446]

I think most people would agree that alchohol is a potentially addictive and destructive drug. I have no idea how one would differentiate between hard and soft drugs accurately.

[warpig13]

so would anyone agree with me saying that 'alcohol is a hard drug'. can we agree on that?

I just refer to it all as "NO-NO STUFF"

[acecl22]

"alcohol is the most powerful drug, i have no idea why its legal and widely accepted while less destructive recreational drugs are the devil"

okay, so here's my original statement. i agree that the first statement was alittle too definitive, but i still fail to see why alcohol is legal and so widely accepted.

[MANN]

might as well throw my .02 in the puddle

Basicly what it boils down to is abuse of drugs. Any drug when abused is harmful to the user/people in their surroundings. No one can say drug X is worse or better than Y. Everyones personall body chemistry is different. I can take 5-6 hydros, and no one can tell any difference where my boss took one the other day, and passed out in his office. Alcohol and tabbaco are the same way. This is why my great grandfather smoked and ate bacon everyday untill he was 92, and john doe dies of lung cancer at 33.

As far as you driving out of the court without a license. Well while I dont agree with police bullying people around; you got what you deserved. Like previous people have stated take this as a lesson learned, and get over yourself. You will not be able to beat the system. Beleive me I have tried.

/I dont do drugs. never have, never will. (I dont consider alcohol a drug. I drink well probally more than I should by the size of my "shed")

Good luck with whatever you decide. Please dont drink and drive

[MANN]

"alcohol is the most powerful drug, i have no idea why its legal and widely accepted while less destructive recreational drugs are the devil"

okay, so here's my original statement. i agree that the first statement was alittle too definitive, but i still fail to see why alcohol is legal and so widely accepted.

because some of us enjoy it without putting others lives in jeopardy, and can do it responsibly

[acecl22]

where do you draw the line between hard and soft? i dont know, but the government has some way of telling that alcohol is alright to be legal, but weed isnt, and mushrooms arent, and so on and so on. if there was a definite ranking of how messed up each drug makes you, then i think that we would be alot more like amsterdam than russia

[acecl22]

okay, so its due to the responsibility factor, thats good. i feel that people can responsibly enjoy a trip on mushrooms without hurting anyone, it actually increases your connection to the people around you, you learn alot about them, you can make stronger relationships with it. so why does the good not outweigh the bad in that case, but it does with alcohol?

[MANN]

where do you draw the line between hard and soft? i dont know, but the government has some way of telling that alcohol is alright to be legal, but weed isnt, and mushrooms arent, and so on and so on. if there was a definite ranking of how messed up each drug makes you, then i think that we would be alot more like amsterdam than russia

I dont know that you can. I beleive some drugs other than alcohol should be legal as long as you tax it.

[acecl22]

i believe the same, its a bloody waste of the american taxpayers dollars to have someone locked up for life for selling weed, but you know, its the 'war on drugs', most pointless war, its never going to end

[acecl22]

im not the person who made this thread, i just accidentally hijacked it

[MANN]

okay, so its due to the responsibility factor, thats good. i feel that people can responsibly enjoy a trip on mushrooms without hurting anyone, it actually increases your connection to the people around you, you learn alot about them, you can make stronger relationships with it. so why does the good not outweigh the bad in that case, but it does with alcohol?

I am not going to argue with you at all. I have rode sportbikes with my cousin while high, and he handled the bike fine. (man was that stupid), but the fact is that alcohol is already legalized, and there is already limits set in place to control it. ie blood alcohol level.

Its sorta like changing America to driving on the left side of the road. We would still be driving, and both are dangerous, but we as a culture have already accepted that alcohol is an acceptable drug. just like in amsterdam weed has been accepted. Untill the next clintion comes around and admits to inhaling it will be thought of as wrong.

The validvictorian at our high school smoked weed every morning. Usually on the way to school. It was amazing. It calmed him down and allowed him to concentrate. While I have never felt the effects of it I think it would be good to legalize it to people like him

/I dont want hillary in office. Im on the Right side

[Lohman446]

Ethical hedonist.

There is no such thing as victimless crime.

Unless there is a victim as a direct result of your actions, I could care less what goes on between consenting adults.

The criminilazation of any drug is against my beleif system