Finished my Pnuematic Trigger Frame...

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  • phishphen
    aSiaN NaTiOn
    • May 2004
    • 144

    #61
    Originally posted by noahyay
    i cannont get my trigger out of my y frame for the life of me, someone help
    get a punch and hammer and lightly tap out the pin (trigger pivot/pin)....
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    • ColdFuzion
      The one and only AO-MS'er
      • Nov 2004
      • 173

      #62
      Phish, if you could put one together, I would pay for all parts and shipping. I LOVE YOU! You're brilliant! I NEED ONE OF THESE!!!!!!!

      -Cold

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      • Bossman
        Registered User
        • Apr 2003
        • 93

        #63
        Originally posted by phishphen
        how far away is your smav-3 from the trigger pivot.? what im thinking is to put the smav-3 as far down the trigger as possible thus reducing the Max Trigger Travel while not increasing trigger force requirement......

        Mine is 1\2 an inch down on the grip. As light as it is I could take it a little lower and still get a great rate of fire. I have pretty strong fingers. LOL

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        • PattyG
          Registered User
          • Feb 2005
          • 43

          #64
          Cost

          I'm new to this section about how much does that cost to do?

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          • ColdFuzion
            The one and only AO-MS'er
            • Nov 2004
            • 173

            #65
            Alright, I just whipped this up (not my best, I'm good with GFX, but this was a 3-min. job). Tell me if I at least have the right idea...



            ^It was a 3 min. job, like I said. Do I have the concept down? Also, how much of a difference would an autococker ram/4-way make over the other parts??

            -Cold

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            • noahyay
              Registered User
              • Aug 2004
              • 350

              #66
              look at my hair trigger animation at noahkool.com

              and look at the pics of the internals too
              rt pro w/ lvlx etc.
              custom milled out y frame
              empire barrel kit
              ult
              custom 15 degree
              custom milled rail
              cut ule body
              steel hose with QD's
              custom welded drop
              90/45 nitro duck x-stream
              halo tsa w/ custom paint job
              soon to get warp

              custom palmer microrock front grip for future trigger for ^

              http://www.noahkool.com

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              • Duck Hunt
                Spam
                • Oct 2003
                • 434

                #67
                ColdFuzion, NOooooooooooooooo hehehe.

                You're still thinking paintball. You have in your diagram a PAINTBALL 4 way, yes 4 WAY. The 3 way from Clippard (SMAV-3) is MADE to run a SINGLE ACTING SPRING RETURN RAM, theoretically, you can probably make something like this from "paintball" parts like autococker pneumatics. BUT!!!!

                You're SOOOOOOOOO better off using items that are designed for this application.

                it goes like this:

                3 WAY (SMAV-3) behind trigger, used to activate the ---

                SINGLE ACTION SPRING RETURN RAM/ACUATOR (MPA-3) which will PUSH the sear using the AIR sent from the 3 way (SMAV-3) then RETURN via SPRING and vent the AIR back through the SMAV-3

                the SMAV-3 gets its air from a Low Pressure Regulator. The best one to use is a Palmer Micro Rock, because it can handle more that 800 PSI. Guns like the autocockers have a regulator that regs the air pressure down to I think 500 PSI then the LPR gets the air.

                Hope this helps, IM me at Duck Hunt AGD if you need any more help, ooooor ask someone who knows

                Sean

                AGD Did someone call me?

                You should go to each gun manufacturers forum or call them up. Ask the OWNER of the company why his gun is better. When you get your answers come back here and tell us what they said.

                You should buy my gun because I have 5000 posts that say I care.

                AGD
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                • phishphen
                  aSiaN NaTiOn
                  • May 2004
                  • 144

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Bossman
                  Mine is 1\2 an inch down on the grip. As light as it is I could take it a little lower and still get a great rate of fire. I have pretty strong fingers. LOL
                  how well can you Consistely keep it "walking".....in your opinion, can you walk it better and faster than i can in the video? If you can do better, PLEASE, let me know cuz i wanna know the best setup possible. i will NOT take it personal.....
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                  • Bossman
                    Registered User
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 93

                    #69
                    I'm not very good at "walking" the trigger, I've shot mags for the last three years..MAGS=HEAVY TRIGGERS.

                    But, that being said, I can really rip on this gun. I guess someone who knows how to do the whole double trigger thing could probably out shoot my valve. (classic) A friend and fellow team mate of mine has the fastest fingers I know....Gonna shoot some video of him shooting my gun when I get some more air.

                    Ill post it when I get some web space.......

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                    • Wassupstranger67
                      Registered User
                      • Dec 2004
                      • 116

                      #70

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                      • txaggie08
                        Big mouth
                        • Jan 2005
                        • 1213

                        #71
                        helld end up getting sued by ptp if he sold it. i still want to know if you did anything to the ram

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                        • Bossman
                          Registered User
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 93

                          #72
                          Originally posted by PattyG
                          I'm new to this section about how much does that cost to do?
                          The cost to yourself would be the parts,(SMAV-3, MPA-3, Micro rock reg = about 60 bucks) and a lot of scratched, beat-up fingers milling out your frame by hand with a dremel.(priceless)

                          I dont think anyone here is looking to "market" what there doing.....Were sharing knowledge about this subject so we can build our own guns, and make the greatest gun in history... better.

                          If your not the D.I.Y. kinda person, your gonna have to wait till someone markets a frame that does what ours do.

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                          • Wassupstranger67
                            Registered User
                            • Dec 2004
                            • 116

                            #73
                            NAAAA I got access to a mill, I have a logic 90 frame I would like to use. I wanted to know some numbers on the trigger pull ounces to see if it was even worth the effort.

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                            • Bossman
                              Registered User
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 93

                              #74
                              Can anyone think of how I can measure my trigger pull weight?

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                              • txaggie08
                                Big mouth
                                • Jan 2005
                                • 1213

                                #75
                                theres a gauge tool that has a push pin you could do it with

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