Deadlywind hAir trigger demo video

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  • Jack & Coke
    TUNAMAX No. 1
    • Jul 2002
    • 2644

    #451
    Maybe an AOer with extra webspace and bandwidth, they could set up a video resource like www.pigtv.net www.AGDtv.org? hmmm....

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    • classicmagplayer
      Registered User
      • May 2003
      • 98

      #452
      Originally posted by AGD
      Things like the safety have to be redesigned because its hard to make a .010 trigger pull not move. In e-guns you just turn off the power. So there are a lot more considerations in producing this than you would think.

      AGD
      Couldnt you just use something to stop the sear from moving? I mean dont try and stop the trigger from activating the 3 way and ram, but just lock the sear in place so that it cannot move. I dont think it would hurt the ram to have pressure in it and be held back by the safety. IDK just an idea. Or you could shut off the air pressure to the 3 way with an on/off assembly, but that would be more complicated and expensive. And it might also leave enough pressure in the 3 way and air lines to activate the ram.

      6 adjustments? hmmm
      I can think of:
      1. Trigger slop adjustment(forward of firing point)
      2. Trigger stop adjustment(after firing)
      3. Trigger firing point(moving the 3 way out/into the grip, the hole beside the 3 way looks like it might use a set screw to lock it in place)
      4. Adjustments of the ram up and down...or forward and back...depending where the ram is.
      5. Trigger force(magnets mentioned earlier)
      6. Reg pressure...which would also affect trigger pressure.
      Idk, but if those are the adjustments I would keep them, except maybe the ram adjustment.

      I've been watchin this since the electrician's mag was posted in the workshop. Its a great idea and cant wait to see the production version. I'll be gettin one as soon as they come out :)

      Originally posted by Dubstar112
      Ok, so a question for Tom when he returns from his research. What would be a production length trigger pull(max vs min)? Is a saftey mandatory?
      I would think if AGD is involved, yes there would be a safety. Id imagine the min trigger pull is what they are showing, and the max would be as long as you want, seeing that it looks to have a pre/post travel adjustment and magnets adding to the force of the trigger pull.

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      • baka
        my 9" member
        • Dec 2003
        • 230

        #453
        Good luck AGD! Thanx for the update and estimation of price.
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        • evilhomer
          Guess what? I have a Mag.
          • Jul 2003
          • 761

          #454
          The problem with the safety is exactly what I was thinking about. You can't really stop a .01 pull with a standard safety. I think the idea of stopping the sear instead of the trigger is a good one. The price seems fair. Especially if it is below 300$.


          Good luck Tom, and have fun in your garage...

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          • davidnj
            • Jul 2002
            • 218

            #455
            Thanks for the update, always good to have info directly from the people that count.

            To me it seems like it would be a good idea to keep people updated here with your progress (although that might just be my desire to have more info on this project). If you have issues there are plenty of bright minds on the forums that might be able to offer ideas to help out.

            As far as the safety goes, I don't think AGD would release it without one.
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            • Butterfingers
              PhD in Automagology
              • Jan 2001
              • 2263

              #456
              The solution already exists...

              Sear block saftey just like in the e-mag
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              • hitech
                Not a shedder of vortices
                • Nov 2001
                • 4775

                #457
                Originally posted by Butterfingers
                Sear block saftey just like in the e-mag
                I don't know how well that is going to work with a powerfull ram pushing the sear. In my eMag the solenoid can override the safety if you pull the trigger enough times. It usually only takes a few times.


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                • Cryer
                  Paintball is over.
                  • Nov 2002
                  • 4105

                  #458
                  a safety isnt meant to stop a string of balls... just a couple at most. To prevent accidental discharge.

                  Usually, you'll only fire once before you realise your finger is on the trigger.

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                  • Annihilator44
                    Registered User
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 234

                    #459
                    You guys think that price of $250 to $300 will include an intelliframe or y frame because if he has to redo the safties it almost seems easier if they just make "hAir trigger frames" instead of sending yours in and making all the mod changes...just wondering cuase $250-$300 w/o intelli seems just a bit pricey...my 2cents


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                    • Joni
                      Registered User
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 942

                      #460
                      It has already been stated that you cant send your frame in for retrofitting the hAir-trigger, so it most likely includes the trigger frame.


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                      • jayloo
                        www.jayloo.com
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 1431

                        #461
                        Originally posted by Jack & Coke
                        Maybe an AOer with extra webspace and bandwidth, they could set up a video resource like www.pigtv.net www.AGDtv.org? hmmm....
                        For any pics canyone can post them at www.jayloo.com. No limits just make sure its pball related. I would create some special groups for this project.

                        For vids lemme know how many and how big and I could probably host them.

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                        • FalconGuy016
                          Divine Right, Pevs @ AG
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 6127

                          #462
                          IM KEEPING MY MAG
                          Hey
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                          BANG!!!

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                          • bertmcmahan
                            Not pop, it's all Coke
                            • Jan 2002
                            • 1960

                            #463
                            Woohoo! Official word updates! Yay! Hey TK if you're gonna be anywhere near middle TN (like, oh, I dunno, 12 or so hours driving) I could come help! Really I could! I could bring you stuff, like, uh, you know, stuff you need! Like drill bits! Or coffee! Or I could hold a light for you! Where is this garage you speak of, I will be the official AGD Garage boy!
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                            • warpedside671
                              Guam*<--------671
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 276

                              #464
                              Thanks you Mr.Tom K for giving us info on this .You are the man,instead of sending some one down you are going your self.It goes to show that you care alot about us
                              Automag users and your continueing comitment to AGD.

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                              • BagelBoy2004

                                #465
                                Originally posted by FalconGuy016
                                IM KEEPING MY MAG
                                Why would you ever think about getting rid of it in the first place?

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