Deadlywind hAir trigger demo video

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  • Phobos
    dur?
    • Sep 2003
    • 165

    #301
    Must get on list for preorder then read all the posts.
    Marker Set up:
    E-Mag_________DataPimp69 Quick Disconnect rail
    X-Valve________Rougeclamp feedneck
    Dynaflow 201___Evil pipe kit 14"
    Halo B _________Karta body, Aced
    Big thanks to Havoc_online and Tunaman for the help too. A+ Service.

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    • OysterBoy
      Fatty McChubbercookie
      • Feb 2004
      • 1409

      #302
      Originally posted by OysterBoy
      I'm sorry but this question has not been answered yet, so I'll say it in bold (get some attention )

      Will This Mod Work, And How Well, With A Classic Valve???
      Yea, this guys right, we need this question answered.























      Unicorns are people too ...
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      lew "My hand was a little shaky and I released too soon."

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      • nicad
        wannabe newbe
        • May 2002
        • 992

        #303
        Yes it *should* work with a classic.
        I say *Should* instead of WILL cause I havent tested it on a classic, but there is no foreseeable reason it will not work.
        it will allow you to outrun the valve tho.. which will cause missfeeds, and possibly breaks in the barrel. :-/

        --(part of my post on pbnation)--
        Sorry for the "unstable" shooting.. I suck at shooting fast.. but guess what, I can hit 16bps on this thing. Others I'm sure could hold that stream of paint in one spot.

        What wasn't stated in the video is that we found some shot-to-shot bursts that where over 18bps (audio analysis), based on the time between the two shots. Angels, etc would have reported that as shooting 18+ BPS.
        Since I believe in consistent ROF, we used the "shots over any given full second" rule for the reported BPS.

        We tried the hAir with the ULT kit yesterday or so.. the trigger pull could be adjusted down to 0.9 oz pull weight... this setup had detrimental effects on the max ROF tho.

        The 2.0 oz stated pull weight is the minimum the trigger was tested at (with stock Xvalve on/off) and still functioned. The prototype has the option to stack magnets to add to trigger return weight (just like the emag). To get higher ROF, you actually want a slightly harder trigger pull to return the trigger fast enough. In the video I was running about 3-4 oz weight.

        out!
        ColinMoritz

        Chord, Chord V2, Dallara, Karta, current project: (coming soon)

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        • Cryer
          Paintball is over.
          • Nov 2002
          • 4105

          #304
          Originally posted by nicad
          The 2.0 oz stated pull weight is the minimum the trigger was tested at (with stock Xvalve on/off) and still functioned. The prototype has the option to stack magnets to add to trigger return weight (just like the emag). To get higher ROF, you actually want a slightly harder trigger pull to return the trigger fast enough. In the video I was running about 3-4 oz weight.

          out!
          This is a + in my book.

          Team Sandbaggers.
          -We own j00 all.-

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          • evilhomer
            Guess what? I have a Mag.
            • Jul 2003
            • 761

            #305
            You're amazing nicad.

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            • steveo356
              who shot me?
              • Oct 2003
              • 169

              #306
              if this cost like 250 or under i think i wouldnt mind havin it strappedon my RTC n own them timmys down at tholse 3 mans



              edit: and it still looks good unlike the hyperframe in ugly composite meterials

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              • Brophog
                Registered User
                • Jan 2004
                • 346

                #307
                Am I not alone in thinking some people are going to be upset at the actual price of this thing?

                Your talking about a custom set of pneumatics here, assembled on a small scale. I can't imagine this thing going for the 200-300 price range most are wanting.

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                • asariel
                  Registered User
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 7

                  #308
                  Since I'm a mag newbie, and since this would probably push me to picking up a mag, can you tell me which models this would work on and what's required upon sending to them? Just generally, thanks.

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                  • Dubstar112
                    Dubstar111x
                    • Feb 2001
                    • 2321

                    #309
                    I agree with you. The price range may be more than people are wanting, but I think there will still be people buying. Think of the Hyperframe. Few years back they were near 300. I think the benefit outweighed the cost in that case. And I think in this case, it will be the same. Think about it.

                    (I paid 270 for my hyperframe. )
                    AO #765
                    CCM Series 5
                    Prerelease Impulse
                    Hyperframed Warped Mag w/flatline tank
                    Feedback.


                    Good to know that somone of Tom's status seeks "relief" from a sport he helped create. A sport now ruled by a single patent.

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                    • Chris42050
                      Splatmaster Tech
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 567

                      #310
                      I H8 to agree with Brophog but I think it will cost more than most in this thread are talkin about. Nicad can you give us a rough idea of when this will be ready? 6 months... a year?

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                      • Brophog
                        Registered User
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 346

                        #311
                        I'm not saying people wont buy them, because I think they will.

                        I do believe they're grossly underestimating the price though.

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                        • ThePest
                          Registered User
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 35

                          #312
                          i must have this
                          Top 10 Reasons to Date a Paintball Player:
                          1.We aren't afraid to get down and dirty
                          2.We know how to listen to directions
                          3.We at least have a ten inch barrel
                          4.We always wear protection
                          5.We love to be aggressive
                          6.We like to push hard, but not hard enough to get hit
                          7.We clean our barrels a lot
                          8.If we run out of air, it takes less than 5 seconds to get us going again
                          9.We're good at moving our fingers extremely fast in small places
                          10.We can move and contort our bodies into weird positions

                          Hard Work Often Pays Off After Time, but Laziness Always Pays Off Now.

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                          • Dubstar112
                            Dubstar111x
                            • Feb 2001
                            • 2321

                            #313
                            BTW, I found a really easy way to measure tigger pull weight.

                            I took my digital scales, and taped a magnet onto the surface. Tare'd, and took another magnet, with repelling forces, and put them closer untill they got to a specific weight. Is this a sound method?
                            AO #765
                            CCM Series 5
                            Prerelease Impulse
                            Hyperframed Warped Mag w/flatline tank
                            Feedback.


                            Good to know that somone of Tom's status seeks "relief" from a sport he helped create. A sport now ruled by a single patent.

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                            • NoForts4Me
                              Old. Geek. Paintballer.
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 282

                              #314
                              Originally posted by Brophog
                              Am I not alone in thinking some people are going to be upset at the actual price of this thing?
                              Although it's just speculation at this point, I agree. I can't see it being below $300. It will probably be more like $350-$400. Even though it is not electronic, it seems reasonable to assume it will be in the price range of the Worrblade, which is fair, based on the performance shown in the video. Although, you never know :)
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                              • evilhomer
                                Guess what? I have a Mag.
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 761

                                #315
                                If it is in the 250$+ range, I don't think I will be one to buy, when I can just sell my Mag and pay that much for a nice electro.

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