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  • Lohman446
    Useful posts: 7
    • Jun 2003
    • 9315

    #46
    We have asked often what the next big step in paintball was - and I had argued that it involved ditching the need for air compressors at the field (though I would have thought an on-board compressor and air storage). This may very well be the next big step in paintball... or not, its hard to tell.
    "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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    • vonort
      Registered User
      • Mar 2004
      • 274

      #47
      I like it. I've always liked Bullpup designed guns. As for the speed factor.. here we go again. YOU DON"T NEED SPEED!!!!! BPS is a completly igorant way to compare guns. As far as range. If its shooting at 300 fps.. its going to launch the ball the same distance as anyother gun shooting at 300 fps.

      I think I"ll wait on them for a while to see what kind of bugs come up.. but good chance I would buy one. I like not being a BPS.. paint slinging lemming.
      Proud supporter of the SP Boycott

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      • JimmyBeam
        Registered User
        • Mar 2004
        • 1105

        #48
        After reading the replies on PBNation, and then the ones here, Im reminded why I choose to post here.

        As for the gun, for a first production model, yea its kind of ugly, but I'm sure they will improve on the design in the years to come.

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        • thorn
          Dont poke me!
          • Aug 2004
          • 170

          #49
          i have the tokyo marui airsoft gun, upgraded to 400fps and all that stuff. the battery is extremely small and eddicient. 9.6v 1200 mah. gets about a thousand shots, but i also have a smart charger that will recharge it in about 15 minutes. but the point is, it breaks alot, and when it breaks, u HAVE to take it in.
          i think a better idea would be air "injections" just put gas in the gun and dont worry about the tank.
          but i think my freestyle with a 45.45 is just right. its the hoppesr they need to work on.

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          • PBX Ronin 23
            Registered User
            • Jul 2004
            • 518

            #50
            Originally posted by Mister Sinister
            You know though a few more high profile CO2/HPA accidents and there could be a big push to bring this from being a novel new idea to being main stream. I think you will see it start with low end markers and work its way up... But I can see it happening. Maybe Paintball wont drive the battery industry specifcally but look at all the new types and changes in batteries recently it wasnt that long ago and NiMH batteries were fantasy...
            This may very well eliminate one of the biggest dangers in the sport. If the technology can be perfected and accepted by the players, it will render the issues with SP and WDP moot.

            But let's see where this goes.
            /s/ Mel C. Maravilla
            PBX Battlezone
            PBX Paintball Station Inc.
            PBX Ballistix Lab
            PBX@NYC Paintball

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            • Lohman446
              Useful posts: 7
              • Jun 2003
              • 9315

              #51
              Originally posted by PBX Ronin 23
              This may very well eliminate one of the biggest dangers in the sport. If the technology can be perfected and accepted by the players, it will render the issues with SP and WDP moot.

              But let's see where this goes.
              I agree with you that the biggest danger in the sport is the 4500PSI tank a few inches from our head, you know the one we dive into bunkers and floors with.

              I would worry that this would only serve to muddy already murky waters around the legal issues with SP and WDP - but I do need to admit that I do not know the exact terms of teh various patents, legal agreements, and court orders out there now.
              "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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              • PBX Ronin 23
                Registered User
                • Jul 2004
                • 518

                #52
                Originally posted by Lohman446
                I would worry that this would only serve to muddy already murky waters around the legal issues with SP and WDP - but I do need to admit that I do not know the exact terms of teh various patents, legal agreements, and court orders out there now.
                Patent issues concerning the use of solenoid to activate a secondary mechnism for one.
                /s/ Mel C. Maravilla
                PBX Battlezone
                PBX Paintball Station Inc.
                PBX Ballistix Lab
                PBX@NYC Paintball

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                • Dawg047
                  Registered User

                  • Oct 2003
                  • 821

                  #53
                  I think it is a neat idea but I think it is just a big spring powered airsoft gun. Don't get me wrong, it is an innovative design and it could have a good affect on a lot of people. People need options and this is great but, I like the way paintball markers are now. Markers now use valves, solenoids and regulators. They use computer chips and complicated designs. They in my opinion are much more unique and show innovation at there finest point. I like the way they are because they are a complex machine. I feel this new design just is not at that same level. I feel it is like a paintball blow gun or sligshot or one of those airsoft guns that shoot paintball bb's. It is just not there at the level of out sport. Hope you guys can comprehend what I'm saying. This is just my opinion. Further note; Nice marker NPS and good job, I'm sure plenty of these will be out on the field.

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                  • Maggot6
                    Registered User
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 1527

                    #54
                    I think that will be the future of paintball...In a few years guns the size of a dm5 would not need a tank...Well, that is possible anyway....

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                    • Muzikman
                      Everything AGD
                      • Dec 2000
                      • 6229

                      #55
                      So my question, when will it be out? I need one, and I'll pay $250. This will be one of those things that in 10 years people will be collecting:)

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                      • Will Wood
                        Evil Monkey
                        • May 2002
                        • 3475

                        #56
                        How nice are they to balls though? Either these things are going to *have* to have eyes, or wouldn't they be just as bad as mags were before level 10?
                        I dunno, just a thought.

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                        • PBX Ronin 23
                          Registered User
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 518

                          #57
                          I guess that how it is with paint is the questions that is begging to be asked and we'll never know until it hits the market. But on pure potential alone, this is more significant than the change from the pump era to the semi era.
                          /s/ Mel C. Maravilla
                          PBX Battlezone
                          PBX Paintball Station Inc.
                          PBX Ballistix Lab
                          PBX@NYC Paintball

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                          • 68magOwner
                            Registered User
                            • May 2003
                            • 3475

                            #58
                            i know ill be picking one up, just so when this stuff becomes the new paintball wave of the future, it will be like having a splatmaster, or the first semi

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                            • Lohman446
                              Useful posts: 7
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 9315

                              #59
                              Originally posted by PBX Ronin 23
                              I guess that how it is with paint is the questions that is begging to be asked and we'll never know until it hits the market. But on pure potential alone, this is more significant than the change from the pump era to the semi era.

                              I don't see it being more significant (aren't I being a jerk about your posts lately, sorry). I mean its not going to change how people play - they won't adopt it until it is as good as what we have now in the tournament scene, or the insurance companies force it. I see it being a great thing though when rec style starts to be... not let me rephrase that. I see it being a great thing when we decide to start classing markers... the electronic markers that may only be capable of 15BPS (or whatever) and the air powered super class of markers.

                              I think the change from pump to semi greatly influenced the game itself, how it was played, I don't see this doing it. This is not meant to detract from the signifigance of this in and amongst itself though.
                              "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                              • Chronobreak
                                Rec Poster
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 5055

                                #60
                                revoultionary. i think..NOT

                                sry something that shoots less than the speed of a68 mag from 1988..LOL come on guys.

                                20,000 shots max from a abttery that has to be recharged every 600 shots(roughly mreo thana tippman 98 on 47/3k)

                                i gues i dotn see it as a big deal sicne we have all day air at our field and a compressor.

                                and for $250! U GOTTA BE OUT OF UR MIND TO BUY ONE.

                                they may be colelctable to a point where theyr rare but not really a turning point in the sport. and def not more importnatn than pump to semi.

                                i find this gun mroe in this category

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