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  • luke
    lukescustoms.com

    • Jan 2001
    • 8215

    #181
    Originally posted by Sandman
    Will there be a 45 style in the long run? I don't think this was ever answered...or was it?
    Anything is possible, are you buying? :)

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    • Sandman
      AGD
      • Feb 2011
      • 405

      #182
      I certainly would be!
      AGD is in the house!
      Custom gun builds. All the parts. New Website. Factory Service available!
      www.airgundesigns.com

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      • going_home
        Hebrews 13:8

        • Dec 2004
        • 8343

        #183
        Originally posted by Sandman
        I certainly would be!
        We were at the Dye booth talking to Billy Wing at cup and my buddy mentioned to him they should seriously think about making black Dye stickies again.

        He didnt say they would but he didnt flat out shoot it down either.

        It'd be a great fit to go with a new 45 frame.

        Just saying....

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        • luke
          lukescustoms.com

          • Jan 2001
          • 8215

          #184
          It's unfortunate that both DYE and AGD got the 45 grip screw spacing wrong, both are wider than spec (but different). You have to force the DYE grips just enough that they get tweaked and don't fit properly.

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          • going_home
            Hebrews 13:8

            • Dec 2004
            • 8343

            #185
            Compared to a 1911 ?

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            • captian pinky
              Bearded Works

              • Oct 2004
              • 2755

              #186
              Originally posted by luke
              It's unfortunate that both DYE and AGD got the 45 grip screw spacing wrong, both are wider than spec (but different). You have to force the DYE grips just enough that they get tweaked and don't fit properly.
              funny you mention that because dye had issues with the grips for the ul frames too.

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              • luke
                lukescustoms.com

                • Jan 2001
                • 8215

                #187
                Originally posted by going_home
                Compared to a 1911 ?
                Yes.

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                • vintage
                  Registered User

                  • Aug 2013
                  • 1787

                  #188
                  the thing I noticed is 1911 grip panel fit my intelliframe just fine but wrap around grips wont because their is no relief behind/below the trigger guard.

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                  • going_home
                    Hebrews 13:8

                    • Dec 2004
                    • 8343

                    #189
                    Dye Stickies fit the Intelliframe perfectly.


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                    • cfos00
                      Registered User
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 171

                      #190
                      Super late to the party and not here too much, but Sandman have you tried talking to Arnold's Metal Service for ano? They do BPS and Bob Long markers, and have a few things going for them. They're extremely fast, have good quality, and are one of the consistently cheapest shops that I've used and seen. We're talking turnaround times of 2 weeks on the three projects I've used them on. They also can do small and large orders and handle both. They're also a professional ano shop---not a gararge shop. They might be a good option for you.

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                      • luke
                        lukescustoms.com

                        • Jan 2001
                        • 8215

                        #191
                        Originally posted by going_home
                        Dye Stickies fit the Intelliframe perfectly.
                        If so, someone has made changes somewhere along the road. I'm referencing the first run Intelliframe, the one without the little jog in the trigger guard to clear the asa and the AGD cad files and the screw spacing does not match 45 grip spec. Of course the screw spacing can be whatever the designer wants but typically when frame and or grips are labeled a "45" it's saying it's made to 1911 specs.

                        Here is what I have found for screw spacing:
                        DYE Stickies > 3.125"
                        AGD Intelli > 3.082"
                        45 Grip spec > 3.0625
                        As a side note PTP grips are dead nuts perfect!

                        My guess is if your DYE Stickies fit "perfect" either DYE or AGD changed the spacing (Which I find extremely doubtful on either account) or more likely someone has filed the holes in the Stickies so they fit. From a machinist perspective both DYE and AGD are off by a mile. LOL.

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                        • going_home
                          Hebrews 13:8

                          • Dec 2004
                          • 8343

                          #192
                          Every Picture Tells a Story Dont It ?

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                          • luke
                            lukescustoms.com

                            • Jan 2001
                            • 8215

                            #193
                            A picture might speak to you but mathematics is the ultimate ruler in my universe, math may not make sense to some but it is no lier! (LOL >> :)) I never said they didn't fit, I said the screw spacing is incorrect. Math is math, spec is spec, within tolerance is close enough. From a technical, machining, design and or engineering perspective I would say someone forked up. For many reasons I can't imagine DYE or AGD chose those dimensions on purpose. Chances are it was an oversight on the designers part. Looking at the AGD spacing I would guess the designer added the holes in the drawing as a place holder because he didn't know what spec was, then forgot about it, the measurement is just too odd to think otherwise. I've been designing in two different fields for more than 15 years and stuff like that happens with the 10's of thousands of details a designer has to keep track of. As far as DYE being 1/16" off, I have no clue, perhaps they are not branded as 45 grips(?)

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                            • luke
                              lukescustoms.com

                              • Jan 2001
                              • 8215

                              #194
                              Since you dont trust my math :)

                              Perfect fit right?



                              Nope. The panels warp when you force them into place.







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                              • going_home
                                Hebrews 13:8

                                • Dec 2004
                                • 8343

                                #195
                                Originally posted by going_home
                                Dye Stickies fit the Intelliframe perfectly.



                                Mine fit fine.

                                I'll stand by what I said.

                                That style you have in the pics doesnt fit anyones frame right, and is not a good example.

                                I'm not going by math, nor am I disputing your math, just saying mine fit fine, and I've never had an issue with them.

                                Now that we've swerved off subject......


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