If AGD Wanted To Go Electronic ?

[Spider-TW]

Is ROF a big issue now-a-days anyway? All major tournaments are capped below 13 now, and NXL is at 10.5 i believe. I cant think of the last time i went to a field and they allowed firing modes (although most people sneak by with ramping).

That's where I started on my ramble. The lower acceptable rof lately is part of what makes the Rize, enmy, and vibe workable. The low pressure / low force bolt is slow and it gets counted as a "feature". I've been backing off on the rof on my mags since 2006. That is a nice thing about electronic control; you can set it for the particular game.

While a new electronic frame would be more widely applicable, my daydream designs usually end up rail-less or integrated rail-frame layouts. It would cut out unibodies, but it opens up other possiblities.

[Sandman]

lets all just keep in mind i got **** on for days, by nearly everyone on this forum with a "name" including several admins, because i dared say something like this.

as i stated in that thread too ... i thought this was common knowledge in the mag community. and it certainly should have been with the very folks ****ting on me.

stay classy AO.

EDIT: again, this is not a rip on AGD. i wish more of the old guard would have done the same thing (WGP eh hem). i think its fantastic that AGD is still around, and the way to do that is keep overhead low.

Hey cockerpunk, not sure what you were ripped on about. Saying that AGD was a one man operation? That's interesting. Not sure why anyone would rip on you for that statement.
Anyway, hopefully whatever reason there was is done and over with.

Back to electronics.

I agree NinJeff. ROF should not be big issue. 15 BPS should be max ROF. Tournaments don't allow that high and fields should never allow higher. So ROF should never be an issue.
15 BPS max is easily attainable.

Size of the frame is my issue. The hyperframe style remakes all use the same huge clacker. I would never agree to invest in a project to rebuild something that big. It has to be a smaller set-up or I just would not make it. So finding a smaller noid or using an LPR with a smaller valve and board are the options I know of. Not sure if they are possible. Everything has to fit in the frame too. No external LPR hanging off the gun somewhere.

Cost. $350. Is just my idea of the sweet spot. Maybe it's not possible. At $500, we'll sell 25 like everything else that's near that price point for aftermarket parts.
At $350 it can be built into a full gun and stay in the $1000 price range.

Scott, I just need to come visit you. See all of these incarnations in person.
Road Trip!

[luke]

That little 1" noid is not the problem with the overly large Eframe's, but its the design of the frame itself. Have you seen one of my Minivert frames in person? What if I said the geometry of a Eframe and grips didn't need to be any bigger than that? But in fact it's exactly the same with more finger room and without enlarging the trigger guard. Not to mention that it does not need to be as tall as an Angel frame.

[knownothingmags]

I say put the board in the rear of the rail. and have battery space in the frame :-)

[luke]

I say put the board in the rear of the rail. and have battery space in the frame :-)

Not necessary and not all mags have rails.

[renie]

I'm working on an emag style design at the moment..was keeping this quiet until I got some testing done, but sod it! someone will only copy it lol...
basically utilising a push/pull solenoid, ive found a real tiny one with decent force (would need a ult or similar) and a new custom trigger rod,
it sits inline where the standard trigger rod would go, the trigger hits a micro switch before the front of the trigger rod which if the board is on your electro or keep it turned off for mech mode.

hope that makes sense lol I can draw it up if that's easier to explain, happy to give Sandman any of my ideas

Like I said its untested but happy to share my ideas :)

[captian pinky]

I say put the board in the rear of the rail. and have battery space in the frame :-)

tried this awhile back and the rail isnt deep enough. If i remember correctly.

[luke]

I'm working on an emag style design at the moment..

Mine is done.

[renie]

Mine is done.

look forward to seeing it :) mines been on the back burner for ages, I'e had no time what's so ever for personal projects

[Sandman]

Mine is done.

Can't Wait!

[Nobody]

Hey cockerpunk, not sure what you were ripped on about. Saying that AGD was a one man operation? That's interesting. Not sure why anyone would rip on you for that statement.
Anyway, hopefully whatever reason there was is done and over with.

Back to electronics.

I agree NinJeff. ROF should not be big issue. 15 BPS should be max ROF. Tournaments don't allow that high and fields should never allow higher. So ROF should never be an issue.
15 BPS max is easily attainable.

Size of the frame is my issue. The hyperframe style remakes all use the same huge clacker. I would never agree to invest in a project to rebuild something that big. It has to be a smaller set-up or I just would not make it. So finding a smaller noid or using an LPR with a smaller valve and board are the options I know of. Not sure if they are possible. Everything has to fit in the frame too. No external LPR hanging off the gun somewhere.

Cost. $350. Is just my idea of the sweet spot. Maybe it's not possible. At $500, we'll sell 25 like everything else that's near that price point for aftermarket parts.
At $350 it can be built into a full gun and stay in the $1000 price range.

Scott, I just need to come visit you. See all of these incarnations in person.
Road Trip!

Gordo has a way of saying something that is just a detriment. The way he writes, he comes off very obnoxious, arrogant and condescending, no matter if its the truth or not.

While i won't try to spend your money, but if you do make sure its a weekend. We, the BEO will put you up, feed you and take you to our field were you can not only shoot these, but put them in real world applications. I am sure we can even drag Tuna out for the day

[BigEvil]

WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

That's because no one likes you Mimsy

[BigEvil]

Scott, I just need to come visit you. See all of these incarnations in person.
Road Trip!

I will order the cigars now.

We can get Keith down here too and make it a 3some LOL

[cougar20th]

I will order the cigars now.

We can get Keith down here too and make it a 3some LOL

Say what?

[Nobody]

Say what?

You are volunteered to a weekend stay at Che Fertitta when Sandman comes.