So, you can buy a NEW Mini Now?

[JimmyBeam]

. We are trying to hang on to that fact. Ya wit us? or agin us?

im totally with you. and i understand where you are coming from. but nothings impossible, and someone has to have some good ideas for improvement or innovation.

[Tunaman]

Yes it is! And I remember Tom saying that. I have three new ideas, but two of them are unlikely to be tested.

I don't know if you read the telescoping power tube idea, but that has promise.

The other is shifting the valve back an 1/8 inch or so (and extending the bolt by the same) to hopefully allow the air to vent from the dump chamber faster. That would increase the behind the ball pressure and should allow a lower chamber pressure to achieve the same velocity.

The third is a longer effective length barrel. You don't have a cocker threaded barrel with a 12+ inch effective length you'd like to sell me cheap, do you?

People also seem to forget the fact that the valve is patented. I would love to take this valve and make it better. But it doesn't belong to me. And the only one who could do that would be Tom...and he is gone. So that's it. That will be as far as this valve goes. Somebody PLEASE drop a 1/2 million bucks on R+D to make a better one that does it all. I will be waiting patiently

[JimmyBeam]

so the patent did go with tom or did the new owners get that too?

[Tunaman]

Remember, I shoot an eMag. I don't own a non-mag semi. I still think the positives outweigh the negatives. However, I can see the negative. It needs to be more efficient. I just wish I had the resources to test out a few theories.

Now we are getting some where. RESOURCES! This is a small company. They are trying to hang on in this nasty market. Does everyone REALLY know how hard that is? Its so hard even WITHOUT guys bashing your products on your own dam forum. Do you know what I mean?

[Tunaman]

so the patent did go with tom or did the new owners get that too?

Tom owns the valve.

[JimmyBeam]

hmm....i hope everyone has their powerball tickets

[usmc8892]

I will be among the first in line when AGD releases their new design !!!

[Tunaman]

I will be among the first in line when AGD releases their new design !!!

Right behind me of course!

[dj89]

Right behind me of course!

I call 3rd. , wait what are we talking about?

[JKR]

I feel for the guy with the need for efficiency. Heck, I play renegade 'ball too and can relate. However, for 95% of the playing public, a less efficient design (within reason of course) isn't that big a deal. Pay-to-play fields have all day air and getting a 25% reduction in shots per tank isn't painful for most folks.

If efficiency is the only thing that anyone can find wrong with the Automag valve, I say that is a testament to a proven design. Hey, Formula 1 cars aren't efficient either!

JKR

[Beemer]

Gee Magman, I could tell you what that post showed, but you wouldnt believe me. Try for a little class and style next time will ya.

I don't own a non-mag semi.

Thats classic. But have ya ever.

Nice hammer swing Tuna. I love it.

Lohman...Remember dont over tuna[tune] it. or your Mag either. jk couldnt help myself
Keg party any one..

Heres the letters for ya. AAGDATT = All AGD All The Time

[shartley]

[Maggot6]

Bah, I want to seem Tom post in this thread....

I was just thinking about what (I think) tuna said earlier; how everyone asked for better "___" in the automag and he gave it to us. I'm trying to think of a non cosmetic upgrade that could be made for the automag/rt mag(s)...We have 2x triggers, we have different foregrips, we have different bodies(powerfeed vs vertical), WE have autococker threading and Twist Lock.. THe only think I can thinking of is from the ASA, you could get some hardline or macro through the grip frame, and into the rail and then into the valve from the outside. So you could still go the old way of just running it on the outside straight from the asa and then the receieving macrofitting... Sorta like the panther.

[GT]

How many shots do you guys need? My last mag I got around 1500 per fill and my emag could shoot down to around 600-650psi. If you need more shots per fill buy a bigger tank or a new gun. There are only two guns that are mild improvements; excal/vik and some cockers. Both of which are about 1lb heavier than or twice as expensive as an rtp.

It called compromise.....

[Wheelman]

I feel for the guy with the need for efficiency. Heck, I play renegade 'ball too and can relate. However, for 95% of the playing public, a less efficient design (within reason of course) isn't that big a deal. Pay-to-play fields have all day air and getting a 25% reduction in shots per tank isn't painful for most folks.

If efficiency is the only thing that anyone can find wrong with the Automag valve, I say that is a testament to a proven design. Hey, Formula 1 cars aren't efficient either!

JKR

I gotta agree, I guess the only reason I have no gripes about the efficiency of the valve (am I the only one with no gripes?) is when I play I'm within walking distance of a fill station. But even with that aside I'm not really that unhappy with the efficiency of it, I guess I never noticed it sucked gas. Of course I did own an old school shocker for a while too I'd have to say I'm like 99.9% satisfied with my mag, the .01% can probably be traced to user error.

Look at it this way, do people gripe because the Mustang GT is a gas hog? No, because they know for the high performance of the car the gas usage is a necessary evil. Can't the same be said here? Call it a necessary evil if you will and be done with it.