** Official Level 10 Problems Thread **

[kcombs9]

If its only one end that is bad, flip it end for end. Put the bad end towards the bolt. Only the tip of the bolt moves out through one end of the spring. Once the tip has moved out past the front, the narrower mid section won't cause any problems.

What is the lowest velocity that the red spring will operate at in your gun setup while shooting balls? Find that value and then turn the velocity up 20fps past it. If the velocity is too high, then you are using too stiff a spring.

its the same on both end of the spring, so I either need to file down on one end more or replace the spring.

The gun was cronoed at 275-280 and the bolt was sticking with the red spring. Iv used the red spring before at that range with no problems.

[athomas]

So after I though I had fixed my red spring I get to the field and the first game I keep getting miss fires, at first I though it was just with Emode so I ran Mmode for a bit and same thing.

It cronoed at 275-280 with no problem but it had problems consistently firing at high rates or at all some times.

Switched back to the gold spring and shot fine the rest of the day. and It was much better paint then my first test so I didn't have any breaks but I would still like to get the red spring to work.

So would AGD will give me a new red spring or should I trying filing this one down more on the inside?

If its only one end that is bad, flip it end for end. Put the bad end towards the bolt. Only the tip of the bolt moves out through one end of the spring. Once the tip has moved out past the front, the narrower mid section won't cause any problems.

What is the lowest velocity that the red spring will operate at in your gun setup while shooting balls? Find that value and then turn the velocity up 20fps past it. If the velocity is too high, then you are using too stiff a spring.

[kcombs9]

So after I though I had fixed my red spring I get to the field and the first game I keep getting miss fires, at first I though it was just with Emode so I ran Mmode for a bit and same thing.

It cronoed at 275-280 with no problem but it had problems consistently firing at high rates or at all some times.

Switched back to the gold spring and shot fine the rest of the day. and It was much better paint then my first test so I didn't have any breaks but I would still like to get the red spring to work.

So would AGD will give me a new red spring or should I trying filing this one down more on the inside?

[athomas]

I don't think this is the case, the lightest spring worked fine and the bolt slids past the washer with no problems, it was a new lvl 10 kit and the red one just had a small flaw on the end of it.

If that was the case, all you had to do was flip the spring around so that the tight end was against the back of the bolt. Little problems like that can be hard to find. It's good to hear that you found the problem and got it going.

[kcombs9]

It is possible that the body washer is mushroomed. Your filing freed things up. Check the body washer. If it is indeed mushroomed, it should be filed out so that it is the proper size again.

I don't think this is the case, the lightest spring worked fine and the bolt slids past the washer with no problems, it was a new lvl 10 kit and the red one just had a small flaw on the end of it.

[athomas]

no bur in the breach, the red spring at the ends of it where too tight and would pinch the bolt so much it would not shoot. I filed it down some and works just great now.

It is possible that the body washer is mushroomed. Your filing freed things up. Check the body washer. If it is indeed mushroomed, it should be filed out so that it is the proper size again.

[kcombs9]

Try it out with some better paint. Stick your finger down in the breach and see if you have a bur cutting the balls. I had a detent blow once and basicly turned the marker into a blender.

no bur in the breach, the red spring at the ends of it where too tight and would pinch the bolt so much it would not shoot. I filed it down some and works just great now.

[fierymartel]

Thanks guys!

[athomas]

sorry, I meant velocity. My crossfire tanks ran out of air(850psi). I then tried my PE tanks and the marker would cycle, but not with paint. With paint, the bolt would stop and reset.

If it is stopping on paint, it is set too soft. You will need to increase the velocity setting to make it cycle consistently with paint. Find the lowest velocity that the gun cycles at. Then increase the velocity about 20fps higher than that for consistent operation. If the new velocity is too high, then you will need to use a smaller/lighter spring. If the velocity is way too low, you should use a stiffer spring.

[Ando]

Go with the red or gray spring, set your velocity and buy some new paint.

Might have sticky or worn detents. Place them in a cup with hot water and swish them around with a fork or spoon to clean them up. Press on the ball under water to get all the crud out of them as well. Just change them out for GP and try it again.

If you have an adj force feed hopper, lean out the amount of pressure it's putting on the balls to your marker or go with a revy and shoot about 6-8 balls a sec and see if there's any change or chopping.

Do one at a time so you can figure out WTH is going on with your marker.

[fierymartel]

cool, so I go to the field Saturday and am shooting hot, I just use a softer spring.

[secretweaponevan]

sorry, I meant velocity. My crossfire tanks ran out of air(850psi). I then tried my PE tanks and the marker would cycle, but not with paint. With paint, the bolt would stop and reset.

Turn up the velocity or use a weaker bolt spring.

[fierymartel]

sorry, I meant velocity. My crossfire tanks ran out of air(850psi). I then tried my PE tanks and the marker would cycle, but not with paint. With paint, the bolt would stop and reset.

[athomas]

So, if my mag cycles without paint, I have the largest carrier that won't leak, and the bolt stops on paint in the breach; I need to turn up the volume?

I'm not sure I understand the question?

[fierymartel]

So, if my mag cycles without paint, I have the largest carrier that won't leak, and the bolt stops on paint in the breach; I need to turn up the velocity?