College Football WOOT!

[Automaggin2]

Originally posted by Collegeboy
All of this debate over Big Ten teams amazes me, for it doesn't matter. We all know the SEC is better, and my team, Alabama, can beat any team in the Big Ten at anytime. Especially if it is played in Tuscaloosa.

Dude, stop dreaming. I would LOVE to see Bama go up against Michigan. They will get stomped on. I hate Michigan (OSU Rival duh) but i seriously think Michigan has a shot at going to the sugar bowl this year.

[Rooster]

"I feel another 6 year win streak coming on by Michigan."

Not with John Cooper Jr. coaching your team. If it wasn't for John Cooper Sr. choaking so many times, Lloyd would surely have the record. Michigan can deffinately beat Ohio State. The blueprint is drawn. The questions is, can Navare execute it? No huddle, spread offense, ten yard passes will walk an offense right down the field on OSU. Otherwise, you'll get handled like Washington. You will not run through Ohio State like Central Michigan, Houston, or Notre Dame. No other team in the nation has a returning front four from a National Championship.

At this point, something has got to be fixed. Ohio State's biggest problem is Jim Bowman, who seems to only know three plays. Run up the middle, quarter back draw, and a slant pass. Ohio State is too predictable. Once they solve that problem, they have a legitimate shot.

[Rooster]

"All of this debate over Big Ten teams amazes me, for it doesn't matter. We all know the SEC is better, and my team, Alabama, can beat any team in the Big Ten at anytime. Especially if it is played in Tuscaloosa."

That is fairly hilarious considering what OU did to bama in their own house. Michigan is looking even better than OU. Alabama isn't even the best team in the SEC West. Arkansas is looking far superior, and can actually go to a bowl game.

[Collegeboy]

Originally posted by Rooster
"All of this debate over Big Ten teams amazes me, for it doesn't matter. We all know the SEC is better, and my team, Alabama, can beat any team in the Big Ten at anytime. Especially if it is played in Tuscaloosa."

That is fairly hilarious considering what OU did to bama in their own house. Michigan is looking even better than OU. Alabama isn't even the best team in the SEC West. Arkansas is looking far superior, and can actually go to a bowl game.

What win because of three passes? You must not have been watching the same game I was watching. Alabama's defense had practically shut down the OU offense except for three passes (one of which was the fake punt). I would use the OU vs Alabama game to show that Alabama would beat any team in the big ten, not the other way around.

As for Arkansas, we will see in 2 weeks.

[bluefan101]

Gotta admit that Arkansas looked good against Texas, but can they keep it up? I still don't know about Oklahoma. They looked sloppy against Alabama. They usually have stronger presence. As for Alabama beating any Big Ten team right now...hmm..maybe if they played Purdue or Illinois, they might would have a shot a winning. Ohio State would probably win by 7 points or less and Michigan would do the same thing they did a few years back...stomp their a55!! I give credit where it is do to most teams that deserve it, like USC. But not to teams that scrape by or to people who want their team to be better than what it really is. Michigan has been in that spot since 97-98 season with 9-3, 9-4 records, but you hang by your team and hope for the best. If it doesn't come you can't just make stuff up. Alabama is not anywhere near the caliber of Michigan, OSU, USC, OU or any other top ten team. Troy State could probably give them a good run. I admire you for sticking by your team, but wishful thinking doesn't make it a reality.

[dre1919]

Originally posted by Rooster
That is fairly hilarious considering what OU did to bama in their own house. Michigan is looking even better than OU. Alabama isn't even the best team in the SEC West. Arkansas is looking far superior, and can actually go to a bowl game.

That's actually pretty funny. Arkansas looked pretty good beating up on a superior Texas team. Seriously, at some point, you have to ask yourself when they'll finally fire Mack Brown and get a real coach. Anyway, Rooster makes a good point about Bama not even being the best team out west. I do think they'll give the Hogs a run for their money since Shula has the Tide playing well though. No, Bama couldn't beat some of the Big Ten schools tight now...sorry. OSU, Michigan, and probably Purdue would smoke 'em.

As for OSU, your number's almost up guys. You can only ride luck so long before reality has to set in. The Buckeyes have a great deal of talent, especially on defense, but they just aren't the same team without Clarett running the ball. Personally, I don't think they should have got half as far as they did last year since they didn't dominate opponents as much as they squeaked by them. But, whatever. Anyway, it's going to catch up to them this season and that's just hard reality. I honestly see them losing at least two games.

Michigan? Nope. I'll be the first to be a good sport and say they throttled my Irish last weekend, but honestly, my Irish didn't even show up mentally. Michigan is good right now, but they aren't that good. Notre Dame's offense has been shaky for several years now, but it's defense is quite solid and should have played much better against UM. Granted, they might not have had the firepower to push past UM on the offense alone, but it should have been a 21-14 style game instead of what it was. ND's defense usually is way more aggressive, fast, turnover causing, motivated, and proud. Saturday, they just didn't even make the trip to Ann Arbor mentally. Hey, it happens now and then. They didn't make the trip to USC last year either, but look at some of the games they played during their streak last season and you can see what they can do when in their prime (hello FSU!).

Michigan has a hot hand right now, but in the end it's not going to stay that way. UM's pass coverage has been a little suspect so far and against other teams that won't fly. If a good defense takes away Chris Perry, Navarre will have to put the game on his shoulders and I don't see him pulling it out. I think they'll get to a good bowl, probably the Rose, but not the NC.

[ShooterJM]

foopdre! I refuse to let you crush my spirit this early in the season! Actually, I'll just be happy if I'm still smiling after OSU game....


edit: bleeped myself before a mod did.

[dre1919]

Ah Shooter, you know your my boy and all, but c'mon man...why ya gotta be a Wolverines fan?

Friends don't let friends be Michigan fans.

[Automaggin2]

NTN! We have a Michigan fan here! Stone him to death!

[Rooster]

"I don't think they should have got half as far as they did last year since they didn't dominate opponents as much as they squeaked by them."

In the end is it more important to dominate every opponent you play, except for one or two? Or is it better to win every single game. Ohio State pulled out victories when they should have lost 6 times last year. If never losing doesn't make you a champion, what does?

[bluefan101]

In the end is it more important to dominate every opponent you play, except for one or two? Or is it better to win every single game. Ohio State pulled out victories when they should have lost 6 times last year. If never losing doesn't make you a champion, what does?

Yes it is important to dominate every opponent that you can. It shows that you have the capablity of playing better than the rest. Even as a Michigan fan, I can say...hesitantly....that OSU deserved the championship last year. They had a good team that played hard ball. This year, no matter what any of the Buckeye fans say, that drive is gone. End of discussion. The front four won't matter if the team can't get on the same page. Go look back at some of the stats on the previous games. Do some homework before you defend "your" team. No running game...Krenzel is out for at least the Bowling Green game with a hurt hand. Defense cannot continue to save OSU.
As for the rest of the question...

I still believe in the tournament structure as opposed to the BCS way. Or for them to keep the BCS alive, I think they need to make strength of schedule more important. Beating the hell out of Central Michigan and Houston...low strength..demolishing the Irish, who are supposed to have a good defense...stronger. We'll have to sit back and let sports writers and coaches decide who should be #1.

By the way...who stones people anymore?? didn't that go away a long time ago?? it's amazing that someone so young can remember something like stoning. Should expect nothing less from a Buckeye fan.

[Automaggin2]

So your saying you should dominate every team to deserve a NC? Didnt Miami go on a twenty-something game winning streak, smashing everyone, until they met Ohio State?

OK, thats what i thought.


Michigan has a damn good program this year. Ohio State missed going to a NC soooooooo many times because of Michigan. People who say OSU doesnt have a good program, then they should start doing some research. 7 National Titles, 2 time Heisman winner on the Alumni, one of the greatest coaches in history, Woody Hayes, the tradition, the rivalry, everything.


And the media like ESPN says OSU has no tradition, there games are boring, and they hardly ever sell out a game.


My arse.


If you ever go to a Ohio State game, you will see what its all about. My sister is a freshman at Penn State, and she called up yesterday wondering if she could go to an Ohio State game with me and my family because Penn State games were "too boring".

[bluefan101]

I never brought up tradition, but...

11 National Championships
40 Conference Titles
3 Heisman Winners
1 Mr Fielding Yost (look him up)
1 Mr Bo Schembechler (Woody's adversary)
1 Mr Llyod Carr (who is well on his way to being infamous)

Tradition


No Block M this time.

[dre1919]

Originally posted by Rooster
In the end is it more important to dominate every opponent you play, except for one or two? Or is it better to win every single game. Ohio State pulled out victories when they should have lost 6 times last year. If never losing doesn't make you a champion, what does?

Actually, it's good to do both. Yes, Ohio State had some great gut check games in which they willed themselves to a win, and that is champion like. However, they were also blessed with a great deal of luck which is also champion like. I didn't say they weren't a champion, I just said they, in my opinion, shouldn't have gotten that far and I think anybody but dillusional Buckeye fans before last year would have agreed with me. Much like dillusional Michigan fans this year... BTW, Miami had that one coming to 'em in the NC...you can only win so many games in a row.

Oh, you wanted some tradition? Here ya go.


Notre Dame generally is considered to have earned 11 consensus national titles (1924-29-30-43-46-47-49-66-73-77-88). But there have been 19 seasons in which Notre Dame has qualified as a national champion from at least one legitimate poll.

7 Heisman Trophy Winners - More than any other school.
21 Bowl Appearances
13 Bowl wins
Knute Rockne
Ara Parseghian
The Four Horseman


IRISH FOOTBALL

[Collegeboy]

I don't think I even need to post Alabama's hehe